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How Do You Make Love to a Black Woman?
I wonder if this painting has a real name

Haven’t been writing much here lately. I’ve been preocuppied with my 365 Days project (available through the feed at 365mav). But I saw something on the news today that made me want to rant a little.

So, apparently a local Pittsburgh teacher has been suspended with pay after a mother complained when her 14 year old daughter brought home a poem that the teacher had given her entitled How Do You Make Love to a Black Woman”. The daughter claims that the teacher called her into his office after class and gave her the poem. It upset her, so she took it home and showed her mother who went with her to the principal and demanded that the teacher be fired.

The poem is printed below for your easy perusal:

How do you make love, to a Black Woman?

How do you make love to a Black Woman,

Romantically and Patiently;

Take the time to make love to her mind.

Fulfill all of her midnight wishes.

Cover her entire body with soft wet kisses.

Tell her, so that she will know!

There’s no place on her body

your tongue won’t go.

And, when you love a Black Woman,

you love her real slow.


How do you make love, to a Black Woman?

How do you make love to a Black Woman,

Passionately and Sincerely;

Let her Sweetness become your Weakness.

Do not use just the Penis, But include your ear.

Listen to the sweet sound of her moans

and see what you hear.

Feel the warmth and care of her loving embrace.

Place your mouth on hers and savor the taste.


How do you make love, to a Black Woman?

How do you make love to a Black Woman,

Sensually and Honestly;

Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Tell her that you love her,

more and more with each passing day.


Let all of the fantasies that dance in her head.

Become her moonlight reality

when it’s time to go to bed.

Kiss and lick all over her body

until you find all her right spots.

Touch and caress her soft skin

and make her real hot.

Mutual satisfaction is a lover’s plan.

Love her, cause you are in love with her.

She’s your Woman and your her Man.


How do you make love, to a Black Woman?

How do you make love to a Black Woman,

Lovingly and completely;

Love her until her “Screams of Passion”

are all you that hear.

Suck on her neck and stick

your tongue in her ear.

Hold her soft round ass

in the palm of your hands.

Let her sexual wishes

become your loving commands.


Love your Black Woman with

your Mind, Body and Soul.

She’s the most precious gift on this Earth.

She’s worth her weight in gold.


How do you make love to a Black Woman?

There’s only one true way to start.

To make love to a Black Woman,

just give her your Heart.

Now, I’m not going to go so far as to claim that what the teacher did was appropriate. But I do have a bit of a problem with how the media handled it. The story was sensationalized to sound like this was the biggest tragedy of all time. There are wars going on. There’s global warming. Anna Nicole is dead and Britney is insane. We have real problems here, people.

The news only printed two lines from the poem, claiming that the rest of it was too scandalous. But I knew I vaguely remembered hearing it before, and a simple google search found it for me. Is it really THAT scandalous? I guess the word penis is in it. I’ll grant that the guy probably was up to shenannigans when he called the girl into his office alone, but they were saying they felt it was inappropriate for the poem to be distributed (and to really drive the point home, the mother photocopied it a bunch of times and gave them out to all the parents in the neighborhood… I am not making this up). What would people have thought if he had assigned the poem to the entire class? They claimed that the poem was and I quote “graphic language even for adults, and especially for children.” Is it any more sexually deviant than Romeo and Juliet (which I’m pretty sure i had to read by 7th grade)? Or is it that the woman in the poem is black? Do
black women not make love?

Also, did anyone actually read the poem? It’s not even about fucking. It’s about being sensitve and listening to the woman. The only reason they even mention penis is to say that its not the most important part of lovemaking.

So, I’m curious as to how people feel about this issue. Is the news overstating it, or am I just too jaded to realize how awful that poem really is? How would you feel if your daughter was given this to read by a teacher? What if the whole class was? How young is too young to discuss sexual literature in an English class? Is it more acceptable if the literature is a “classic?” Like I said, I certainly read Romeo and Juliet that young, and there’s tons of sexual overtones in that. And I know we were assigned books with explicit sex in 9th grade when I was 14 (the same age as this girl). So how young is too young?

Of course, this is all just silly. Everyone knows that kids are already fucking their teachers by the time they’re 13.

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37 comments for “on poetry and perviness…

  1. February 27, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    I think the entire thing is just a stew containing equal parts “To Catch A Predator” and “Accountability and No Child Left Behind”, then seasoned with a touch of “Oh Noes This Sounds Interracial”. Serves 4 (Nielson points). Then again, I’m sucking on antibiotics and trying to wake enough to go to my public school myself, so it could just be my mood…

    1. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:01 pm

      yeah… I’m ok with the to Catch a predator side. Fine. He shouldn’t have been propositioning the little girl (assuming that’s what he was doing, we only have the one-sided view of the story). I just don’t like them making this out to be really really scandalous. I mean, they honestly claimed that the poem was graphic for adults.

    2. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:03 pm

      oh yeah… also, you and Gaby want to pose in my tarot card deck?

      1. February 28, 2007 at 12:10 pm

        Sure – the next few weeks are looking a bit crazy, but I’m sure we can plan the time in!

        1. mav
          March 3, 2007 at 5:30 am

          cool. I’ve added you to my list.

  2. February 27, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    I’d say the poem is half sexual/sensual and half not. Its point is probably more in the not… maybe… Either way, I think it’s something a high school literature class should be able to handle… maybe more like seniors and less like freshmen, but, you know, whatever. I’m pretty sure I read it in English, at some point. Maybe I was reading ahead in our textbook and it was never presented–who knows–but you’re right, high school kids can basically handle sex in literature.

    It was absolutely inappropriate of the teacher to give this to a student, though, unless it was in the context of the entire class reading it. What an awkward position to put her into, though I think it’s a damn shame she didn’t feel like she could tell him, directly, “This is inappropriate and makes me uncomfortable, please stop.” (I’m sure by now she wishes she’d handled it, rather than telling her overbearing mother. So maybe she learned her lesson in asserting oneself, belatedly.)

    1. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:10 pm

      well, the news presented it as though the daughter went straight to the mother and they were working together to get rid of the guy and what a hero the daughter is. So I don’t know that there’s a problem of embarassment for the girl. But of course, the news also said the poem was full of language they couldn’t repeat, so i’m kinda taking what they say with a grain of salt.

  3. February 27, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    “Like I said, I certainly read Romeo and Juliet that young, and there’s tons of sexual overtones in that.”

    I could attribute that to one of two factors: 1.) That people have become more paranoid about exposing middle-school/high-school students to that kind of stuff. It’s part of the whole political-correctness epidemic. 2.) While most people have read Romeo & Juliet at some point, only a handful actually understood any of what they were reading. The sexual overtones were not as overt. A lot of people in this world just don’t get subtlety.

    As for this case, I think the problem is that she was called into his office alone and given this poem. That’s uncomfortable. I think the inappropriate actions of the teacher should be what is under scrutiny here, not the poem. I’m willing to bet it was those circumstances that upset the girl, not the poem itself. It’s as if they think if they get rid of anything sexually suggestive, it will stop teachers from trying to seduce their children. Or maybe they just don’t care about how the girl felt and hate sexual literature.

    Or maybe they’re just against black women having satisfying sex. I really don’t know. People are insane so it could be just about anything.

    1. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:14 pm

      true… I’m actually amazed by how many people don’t get that Romeo married Juliet because she wouldn’t fuck him otherwise. I mean, its right there in the play.

      And as I was saying before, I will agree that he behaved inappropriately in the manner of presenting the poem, and maybe even that he had ulterior motives, but that wasn’t the point of the story. It was that 14 year olds are too young to be reading this smut.

      Why the hell is a 14 year old in the 7th grade anyway? 🙂

      1. February 28, 2007 at 5:02 am

        Fair enough. I’ll get back to the point then 🙂

        Again, I attribute much of the outrage at this poem to people not understanding subtlety. If you read this poem and don’t actually think about it it seems like a straightforward set of instructions for getting it on with a black chick. However, if you actually try to figure out what the author is trying to say with this poem you find that it’s all about loving and respecting one’s partner, and striving for the enjoyment of both lovers, rather than the selfish gratification of just one of them. Which seems a much healthier and generally more positive portrayal of sex that you see in a lot of sources. It even seems to be implying a certain amount of responsibility in this sexual encounter.

        But since most people don’t want to bother trying to interpret such things at more than face value, they don’t see the responsibility, they don’t see the loving tone of the poem, they don’t see the respect. All they see is smut.

        I’m not sure whether I feel this poem is appropriate for that age group, because I wonder if they can handle sexual subjects maturely and to interpret it beyond its face value as a set of instructions for fucking. But, if they do lack the maturity, that may just be because no one has every really tried to maturely discuss sex with them.

        1. dgr
          February 28, 2007 at 10:50 pm

          On the subject of the poem, I thought it was terrible. I made it about three and a half stanzas in and then scrolled down past it before my eyes started bleeding. It reads like pretentious softcore pornography, relying on the stereotype that black women are demanding about their own pleasure and implies that the author is a fantastic lover because he touches the woman with a part of him other than his dick. The teacher should be shot for corrupting the aesthetic tastes of the future generation.

          The teacher is totally trying to slime his way into the girl’s panties. There are a hundred less sleazy ways in which he could have given her the poem if it related to her work.

          As for sexual content for high school students, you can pretty safely assume that they have been exposed to worse. They know enough to judge when they are legitimately being given work, and when their teacher is just trying to bone them. You can also assume that their parents will interpret your actions in the worst light possible. Assigning Lolita to your class is fine if you’re trying to make a point and willing to fight. Calling one student into your office, giving her your well worn private copy, and having The Joy of Sex be the next book on your bookshelf… not so okay.

          1. Anonymous
            March 3, 2007 at 5:04 am

            Hmm. Fair enough. I guess I just interpreted differently. 🙂

            That said, I didn’t think it was a good poem in general. I think it’s extremely poorly-written.

            And yeah, the teacher is a sleaze.

  4. February 27, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    I’d need to know more about the circumstances surrounding the teacher giving the poem to the student to read. It might have been appropriate (maybe she had written something similar, or in similar style), but with no further information, I’ll agree with above. If it was presented to the entire class, that would have been okay. By the time you’re 14, you’d better know about penises and what they’re for. And I agree with you, it’s a very positive view of lovemaking.

    Romeo and Juliet was 9th grade, and I remember other stories about “touching private bits” that were mandatory reading in high school. This is, if anything, a more positive and sensitive piece to expose high schoolers to.

    Also, why should only black women get all the good stuff? Discrimination!

    1. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:18 pm

      It might have been appropriate (maybe she had written something similar, or in similar style),

      Glad you mentioned that. That was actually my first thought. And given the rest of the misinformation, we can’t know what’s really going on here.

      And nope, white women don’t get any good stuff. Its a new rule. Sorry, luv.

  5. February 27, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    im just wondering why you havent weighed in on the whole zombies who run really fast vs vampires with machine guns debate????

    1. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:21 pm

      hook me up with the relevant info and I’ll consider it. My gut tells me to go with the vampires.

      1. February 27, 2007 at 7:19 pm

        well it starts here http://akiramich.livejournal.com/391615.html?nc=53 and then there are many many many sub posts on the subject…

  6. February 27, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    Ok, I am not even going to cover the circumstances with which the poem was delivered, because I think everyone sees the “ewwww” factor in that.

    I can understand a parent getting upset about this poem. It is a tad racy and while it is about being sensitive, it is framed within the context of fucking. I would say it is more graphic than Romeo and Juliet. There wasn’t any oral in R&J that I remember. Also, the poem in question is in modern language, whereas R&J is in an outdated form of english that you need to translate to find anything sexual.

    If you wanted to do a discussion of sexuality in poems, that would be fine. I would say you would want to get some permission slips first to cover your ass and give the parents the choice to opt their kids out of it. I would say the average parent would not be expecting a poem like this within their child’s curriculum, and i think they have a say in what the school decides to expose them to.

    1. February 27, 2007 at 5:53 pm

      I agree with everything in your reply, . (OMG! Imagine that!)

      Something else to throw into the mix: most modern (and even not so modern) music is more explicit.

      1. mav
        February 27, 2007 at 6:26 pm

        i guess the argument is that the teachers don’t give out mix tapes to their students. Still, I agree, which is why I think they’re overreacting by saying that the language was too strong.

      2. February 27, 2007 at 7:30 pm

        Yeah, how the hell did that happen? I’ll try and do better next time.

        Mav is right about the music thing, though. schools aren’t assigning NIN’s “Closer” as part of students studies, that is something that they are (were) searching out on their own. Anything dolled out by the school has, by it’s very nature, a differelt level of implied acceptablilty to it. So while students may be listening to more graphic music, the school isn’t “condoning” it by adding it to their cirriculum… at least, they shouldn’t without notifying the parents.

        1. February 28, 2007 at 2:30 am

          NIN’s “Closer” isn’t the half of it when you listen to the “hip-hop” genre today, frankly. (And many other genres, that just most quickly comes to mind.)

          I don’t know about you, but I actively sought out erotic “literature” of any type, the school didn’t have to condone it. Even so, as a parent of a child just about that age and at that grade level, I would have to raise my eyebrows if this was required reading. I guess I’d prefer something more subtle.

          Yet, because I tend to see everything in the grey rather than on one side or another, I’d let her read this at home and would openly talk about it. I suppose that’s the key for me: that I know about it and can talk to her about it.

          P.S. Mav: who is that woman in the painting and who is it by? It’s amazing.

          1. mav
            February 28, 2007 at 4:16 am

            I don’t know who the painting is of or who did it. I did a google search for the poem on the web and that was the picture attached to it. Coincidentally, It was also on the printout of the poem that the teacher gave the kid (or at least the copy of the printout that they showed on the news) so one would assume that I found the same geocities page that the teacher did.

    2. mav
      February 27, 2007 at 6:25 pm

      that’s fair. Though to be fair, I also had assigned reading that involved lots more explicit sex when I was her age and in clearer english than R&J. And I guess it was 10th grade, but we had to read a lot of teen romances that dealt with rape and pregancy and stuff when I was 15. There were no permission slips for any of that.

      1. February 27, 2007 at 7:25 pm

        See, I don’t recall getting into anything that… graphic… until college. There was high school reading that had sexual content, but it wasn’t that blunt (at least, that is how I remember it.) But to be fair, my high school was much more heavy into the sciences than the humanities, so we may have had a lacking cirriculum.

        1. mav
          February 28, 2007 at 4:27 am

          I wish I could remember the titles of all of the books we had to read. There’s certainly less explicit sex all over the classics, R&J and Hamlet for instance, and there’s off page sex strongly alluded to if not directly mentioned like every five pages of the Great Gatsby (one of my all time favorite books). I just racked my brain to come up with one of the teen fiction books we were forced to read in 10th grade and I came up with Night Kites by M. E. Kerr. It all about teen awakening and sexuality. It deals directly with homosexuality and AIDS and one of the main characters, Nicki, fucks pretty much every guy in the book. I actually remember it being pretty strong, but I read it like 18 years ago.

      2. February 28, 2007 at 6:05 pm

        WHAT?! Why am I just now hearing about this? Ahem…ok, I’m alright now. Anyway, I would not have objected if it were a class assignment at that age. But if the pervert called you alone in to present it, that would have been a problem. Somehow, I’m reminded of a certain choir director. I’m sooooooo glad my sons couldn’t sing!

        1. mav
          March 3, 2007 at 5:32 am

          hey! I can sing! Just not well. You know the chior director they replaced him with also had an affair with a student, right? Left his wife for her.

          1. March 3, 2007 at 5:47 am

            Sheesh… that’s that quality Lorain education.

  7. February 28, 2007 at 12:01 am

    its a difficult case, we’re not in a position to judge on the poem alone.

    interestingly.. i don’t think its too graphic for a 14 yr old to read on their own and investigate their sexual/love curiosity… (she could be sexually active already and not know what self esteem is like in sex-who the heck knows) it is too graphic for an adult in public education to give to a 14 yr old without discussion/approval of motivation by the parents beforehand.

    if he pulls her aside and says, i think you’d really love this poem, i want you to take notes on what you feel when you read it, wink wink… then, yes, it was inappropriate.

    if this kid’s a poetic genius and was looking for something new and shocking to write about and needed an example of let’s say, love that isn’t described with hearts and flowers… yes, that would qualify, but you know, i don’t think she’d be going to her mom saying her teacher made her uncomfortable.

    1. mav
      February 28, 2007 at 4:31 am

      Re: its a difficult case, we’re not in a position to judge on the poem alone.

      well, what makes me think it was inappropriate is mostly that the kid was so shocked by it that she immediately took it home and showed her mother. At the risk of being… well me… someone that sheltered and prissy simply isn’t a poetic genius and didn’t write something that warranted a sexual awakening kick in the ass from the teacher.

  8. February 28, 2007 at 1:09 am

    As someone who majored in Creative Writing, this poem offends me because it’s gawd-awful. It doesn’t even deserve to be called a poem. It’s barely acceptable as creative writing by someone with a fifth-grade education. It’s boring. The language is pedestrian. “Penis” and “ass” seem to be there because the author doesn’t know any other words and was too lazy to think of creative ways of describing the same parts.

    As a non-Black person, this poem offends me. Are Black women the only ones who need love, tenderness, patience and understanding? What about the Heebs and honkies and…gasp…men?

    Is the subject matter inappropriate? For a teacher to give privately to a student, definitely. But teachers, by and large, have better taste in poetry than this. This is the kind of crap I see tweens printing off websites and saying “oh this is my favorite poem” and then I just sign and get out the Langston Hughes.

    1. February 28, 2007 at 1:16 am

      Ok good, I was hoping it wasn’t just me who thought this poem was terrible.

      I would want the teacher fired just for having bad taste.

      1. mav
        February 28, 2007 at 4:36 am

        well, if we fired teachers for having poor taste we’d have a serious shortage of teachers. Same thing with every other profession for that matter.

    2. mav
      February 28, 2007 at 4:35 am

      Well, its an old carribean poem that has been passed down through the ages or something like that. I don’t remember where I heard it the first time. No one said it was high art. I thought it was kinda boring too, but I don’t want to judge really.

      I already made the joke with that no, whities don’t get to be loved, so I’ll pass and answer it more directly and honestly… Sure you can get love adn tenderness and patience and understanding. It’s just that if you want it, you have to find your own damn poem. 🙂 Seriously, I wouldn’t have a problem with “how to make love to a white woman” or “how to make love to a jewish man.”

      1. February 28, 2007 at 10:16 pm

        Maybe it sounded better in Olde Carrybeynne?

        but I don’t want to judge really.

        Since when?

        1. mav
          March 3, 2007 at 5:33 am

          I frequently don’t want to judge. I frequently want to judge too. You can’t get me. I’m the wind, baby!

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