In the landmark Supreme Court Case of Feinders v. Keypurs…
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In the landmark Supreme Court Case of Feinders v. Keypurs…
“Arnold says one reason he couldn’t evict the people [is] because he didn’t have a name.” Well, I’m glad his name is “Arnold De’Angelis” now, ’cause having no name would be a bummer.
#grammarandusagenazi #vaguemeanings
^ I was trying to think of an adequately snarky way to say this.
The copy editor needs to go back to English class.
I was actually confused for a moment. How does he own a home with no name? Long term care at a hospital as “John Doe”? What the f…OH! Because he doesn’t KNOW THEIR NAMES! Got it.
yeah, I actually had the same reaction as George when I read it
True. Copy editors are rare these days. The *reporter* needs to go back to school. His/her communication degree [likely] is faulty.
As a former copy editor, I can say that I found sentences like that to be one of my primary sources of amusement.
that whole: “what would you do in this situation?” BS at the end is just absurd.
This man is obviously not related to either side of my family. The law would not be necessary to resolve this supposed stand off.
Depending on local laws the squatters may have established residence so they would need to be evicted. It’s _not_ that difficult to evict people especially when they’ve established their residence illegally but there _is_ a process that must be followed and failure to do so could be catastrophic for the owner.
given that I am one side of James’s family, I believe he was advocating the time honored “eviction by my boot in your ass” technique
Not so easy to accomplish while recovering from a broken hip and long hospitalization though….
yeah, they’d have to sign power of ass kicking boot over to someone else so they could put it up their asses.
So if I’m doing something illegal and the cops don’t know my name and I don’t tell them they can’t arrest me, or is that just the law for squatters?
Lisa: there’s a great deal of pain I’m willing to go through in order to kick someone’s ass.
Donte: Not knowing someone’s name makes it take a little bit longer to file a civil suit against someone (and harder to get a financial judgement out of them). The article is written from a perspective lacking much in the way of legal process.
James C. Taylor, Cousin you were reading MY MIND! Bwahahahahahaha! To the rest: “boot in your ass” is clearly metaphorical; in reality there are other ways of moving someone’s ass other than a boot. A broken hip, wouldn’t feel quite as much pain if one were to only experience momentary recoil, for instance.
So long as everyone here understands that the ‘time honored “eviction by my boot in your ass” technique’ is a very good way of losing tens of thousands of dollars or more through criminal and civil litigation (ie the likely cost of the home in question) we’re all good. The courts in most jurisdictions take a _very_ dim view on self-help evictions even when the eviction itself is justified.
I would make it unliveable.
Melanie: how would you make it “unlivable”? These people are legally tenants and the owner of the property the landlord and all of the landlord tenant protection laws apply. Violating them would only serve to give these illegal tenants ways to take money from you and in some jurisdictions, make it so that they can stay another 6 months before you can request that they leave (and start new eviction processes).
Jim: in all seriousness… James, Lynn (my cousin and my mom), Donté and myself are all speaking from a … lets say “hood” point of view. And given that the article is about West Detroit, I’m going to say that’s likely appropriate. We’re being silly, yes… but in all honesty, I can pretty much assure you, that if I or any of those three people came home to find a family squatting in our house, it would not get to the “civil litigation” point. Wrong or right… it just wouldn’t.
this person is tresspassing and illegally in my home, also theft of services (electricity/water) isn’t sufficient?
Philip: you’d have no problem getting a judgement against them. But taking matters into your own hands has the potential to get you into all kinds of grief and if they go through legal channels when you fail to do so would mean that, at least in the short term, you would lose.
Jim Leonard, it’s pretty hard to sue from the great beyond.
How are they tenants if they don’t pay rent? Thanks for pointing out my type-o. Hasn’t anyone ever done anything within the law that has made your temper boil to the point of you moving? I think Chris understands what I mean with all of his insane neighbors.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/24/ex-cons-squatting-in-soldiers-home-defiantly-stay-put-but-their-tune-rapidly-changes-after-outraged-bikers-veterans-promise-a-little-visit/
The thing is, Jim is right… if you hurt the squatters, they likely can sue… EXCEPT, they are trespassing and self-defense laws, generally allow you to harm home invaders, which they are… If nothing else, going to court and trying to argue to the judge/jury “that asshole broke my leg for no reason, just because I was trying to steal his house” isn’t the strongest opening argument.
Yeah, Mav. I know the law. And I’m sure the guy in Florida knew the law too. And he also knew that bikers and Army vets weren’t going to worry about pieces of paper and due process. And your point of the argument not exactly being persuasive is also valid.
Exactly… that was my point with the law of boots to asses. I get that there might be a legal way out of the situation, but I’ll be damned if I’m gonna go through six months of legal wrangling to get someone out of my house.
My dad was in a similar situation since September, although the tenant was originally legally there. She wouldn’t pay rent, so he gave her eviction notice and spent months in court after she refused to leave. She finally moved out last weekend, but it’s cost him tons of money in loss of rental income and court fees.
right… that I get… that’s a tenant you’re renting to… in a house you don’t live in. so it sucks, but I get relying on the law to deal with it…
people breaking into your house that you live in and refusing to go, is totally different
“Renting” implies she was paying to be there, which she wasn’t.
Although I completely agree – squatters are different.
well, I mean… she WAS renting… 🙂 but yeah, I’m glad he got it taken care of.
if it’s your property, then do you have access to it? i mean, like in the one article– can you bring 100 of your closest friends over to “stay”?